obama won it in 2008 can romney take it away from obama? chairman of the victory center . pete snyder and former senator evan bayh. do you believe it it is in play? >> historically it is inclined to the demdeps, but the polls are closing and largely depends on who vote. if young people and minorits vote in the same percentages, it will tilt to the president. but if conservatives and republicans fired up upset is possible. >> brian: so ed rolins eight swing counties that being decide the whole thing and there is a lot of independent voters who have been going in the romney colume. is that one of the reasons. >> it is one of the reasons and a lot of move a state that used to have reagan democrats in the middle of the state and pittsburg and it is worth taking a try. >> steve: it is piling up blue collar white voters in the southwest, peat? >> this is never obama country, this is hillary country. ed randel and governor of pennsylvania compained hard for hillary and barack obama had a hard time to get traction is right for pick off. >> brian: the fact that bill clinton goes to